Which drop bar shape and size is best? That depends on your anatomy, conditioning, position on the bike, type of riding you do, how your bike is equipped and your bike’s geometry. One cyclist’s ergonomic heaven is another’s hell. I’ve assembled samples of a representative range of most of the traditional road bar geometries together with a few of the newer shapes. I’ve omitted anatomic bars as I’ve never found one that fits my anatomy, so apologies to fans of anatomic bars.
You can navigate the images using the thumbnails, use the arrows left and right to jog through the menu and the bar specs will display in the lower left above the thumbnails if you roll over the main image.
As Mitch has pointed out in the comments you should note that the bars are pictured for easy comparison of the shape, reach and drop not at the angle they are likely to be mounted. Different riders will rotate the bars by differing amounts but generally you will wind up somewhere close to this:
Road bar shapes can be roughly grouped into the following categories:
Track / Pista: These bars closely mimic the shape of track bars providing more clearance for the arms when sprinting out of the saddle then any other road bar shape. The Cinelli model 65 Criterium bar (144mm drop) and 3ttt’s Gimondi bend (drop in the 155mm range) are the classic examples. This style bar all but disappeared with the advent of aero brifters but is making a big time comeback with fixed and single speed bikes.
Shallow / Italian Classic: The 138mm drop of the classic ’shallow’ drop bar is actualy quite large compared to today’s compact bars. Classic examples include the Cinelli model 64 Giro D’Italia (138mm drop) and 3TTT TdF bend (138mm drop). Modern Italian classic bars include the Deda Newton / 215 shallow (135 mm drop) and and the 3T Rotundo (139 mm drop).
Deep / Belgian / Pave: The traditional deep drop bars like the 3ttt Merckx bend and the Cinelli Model 66 Campione Del Mondo had drops of around 158mm. The current Deda “deep” has a drop of 145mm.
Compact: Aero shift/brake levers changed the cyclist’s cockpit moving the main position for braking and shifting to the hoods from the hooks / downtube. It also moved the postion forward out past the hooks as the brifter grew into a full handlebar extension. This required riders to lower their bars relative to their saddle to maintain the same riding position. Manufacturers responded with an ultra shallow bar with a short reach that raises the drops and moves the in the hoods position back. Clearance for the arms with a 125mm drop is maintained by having a shallow bend out of the hook and extending the drop farther back then with traditional bars. The trade off is less variation of position between hand positions. An advantage to some a deal killer for others. FSA, Deda, 3T and most manufacturers have compact versions of their most popular bars.
Randonneur: The tops are upswept raising the hooks and drops and the hooks are angled outwards making for a very comfortable long distance bar. You can see in the illustration below how for the same stem height the Randonneur shape gives a more upright riding position. Grand Bois and Nitto currently make Randonneur style bars.
French Maes: The classic Philippe Professionel had a long reach, shallow drop with parallel ramps and drop. This shape is available today with the Grand Bois Maes bar.
These classifications are not well defined. The pista style bar is defined not by the amount of drop but by the shape with the distinctive curve starting almost immediately from the ferrule (see the tops illustrations below). The shallow and deep drop bars are distinguished by the amount of drop with a wide variety of shapes among the different models within each category.
3ttt offered all of it’s road models in a Gimondi (Pista) bend, Merckx (deep) bend, Tour de France (shallow) and in later models anatomic as well. So you could get a Super Competizione or Prima 220 marked with a GIM (Gimondi bend) or MEX (Merckx bend). In one 3ttt catalog I have seen they refer to the Merckx and Td’F as if it were the same but in the sample bars I have the Td’F drop is shallow and the Merckx drop is deep but the shape and angle of the ramps is the same. Unfortunately the new 3T has not maintained the practice of different drops/shapes for each model but Deda offers it’s current bars in shallow, deep and anatomic versions.
In the above illustration you can see how the shift/brake lever as handlebar extension and main control center has impacted the size and shape of road bars. Campagnolo’s new 11 speed brifter has 2 hand positions on the hoods and claims braking from the hoods as effective as from the hooks.
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If you stretch your arms straight out in front of you, your wrists will naturally be at an angle not far off that of the Nitto Randonneur. This makes for a very comfortable braking position in the hooks.
But if you are braking and shifting from the hoods with a brifter you might find the angle awkward as it turns your wrists out. In that case you might prefer a straight or only slighly angled hook like the Deda 215. The equipment you use can change your preference in bar geometry. |
I’ll be replacing the above animated gif with a navigable Flash animation once I have a few more samples ready to include. More to say about the tops then.
Grant Petersen of Rivendell likes high trail bikes, a more upright riding position and wide bars. Grant designed the Nitto 177 Noodle bar. Here is Rivendell’s take on handlebars.
Jan Heine of Bicycle Quarterly prefers low trail bikes and narrower width bars. He rides in Paris-Brest-Paris and other long distance endurance events and uses a GB Randonneur bar. You will find an excellent article on handlebars that goes into the relationship between bar width and bike geometry as well as a bit of history and reviews of the GB Randonneur and Maes bar by Jan in the Winter 2008 issue of Bicycle Quarterly.
The Competitive Cyclist sells racing frames and gear to competitive cyclists. Andy at Competitive Cyclist makes the case for compact bars in this video review of the FSA compact bars.
If your equipment preferences and the type of cycling you do aligns with any of the above three you will likely find your handlebar preferences will be similar to theirs as well. So you can use that as a guide for where to go for expert advice.
Sheldon Brown on handlebar clamp sizes and tubing specs.
And what bar do I use? An old 3ttt Ergo Due with Merckx bend. It’s got double grooves for my Campagnolo Ergopower shifters and it’s dimensions work well for my long arms and long fingers. If I was still using brake levers and bar end shifters I think I would have gone with the GB Randonneur.
Adding More Bars: If you would like to see a bar added I would need a photo similar to the one below. I don’t need the Campy Ergopowers mounted but I do need a metric ruler set at the center of the bar tubing at the hook to give me scale. The photo has to be a perfect profile none of the top should be showing from below or above or left or right. Otherwise the shape will be distorted. I had to shoot a dozen shots to get one at just the right angle. Background does not matter. Contact me before you go to the trouble to make sure I will use your bar. I’ll also need a photo of the top (see the tops animation above). You can photograph the bar on your bike and get someone to hold the ruler but bar wrap is a problem I need the bar bare.
Lending me the bar to photograph is another option but I can not pay shipping. It get’s expensive.





This is great info. I’ve never seen all this in one place and it’s good to be able to compare and contrast. Thanks for pulling this together.
Some bars to add- TTT Fausto Coppi bend- TTT’s pista bar
and the SOMA 456 Track bar. You are to be commended for your site.
Brad, I’ve not been able to find even a picture of the Coppi bend. I’d love to see one. There are quite a few bars I would have liked to have included but I did’t have access to. I was going to keep it to road bars but as there are so many fixxies out there I suppose track bars are being used on the road a lot these days.
Over time as I can get schematics, a bar to photograph or get photos that are suitable for tracing I’ll add more bars.
Great site for picturing bar dimensions that are difficult to visualize if you haven’t seen the bar.
For those planning out your set up, remember that you don’t set up the traditional bars with the drops parallel to the ground as they are often shown in catalogs, as above. Set ‘em up that way if it’s comfortable for you, but most riders have always had the drops angled down a little so the top forward extension is not angled down as steeply. Also gives more room on the top forward extension so you can rest your hands on the ramp and move them forward to the hoods as you like.
For example, the Cinelli 66 side view above might look like you ride this bar with the ramps pointed almost straight down. The way my Cinelli 66s are set up has the top ramp angled down a little bit and the drops angled down a little bit, and there is lots of ramp to rest your hands on without sliding down too much. Apply this same set up to all the trad. Cinelli and 3ttt bars listed above and you can imagine how they should work.
Look at the side by side comparison of the Randonneur, Deep Drop, and Compact bar above, and tilt the rando bar up till the tops are level, then tilt the deep drop up till the tops have the same angle away from vertical as the drops. Then move the brake lever down both bars, and you’ll have the comfortable and efficient set up with these bars. The compact bar is already positioned in the graphic for comfortable and efficient riding.
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Great stuff…
how about the nitto 176 dream bar,
it’s another great mid drop choice, sort of between the cinelli
64 and 66
-g
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Paleo,
Thank You, I’d be very happy to see the article translated. You are welcome to use the images as well as long as you include a credit and link.
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Send a link when you post it and I’ll add it to my post.
Excellent resource – thanks for pulling this together!
Very nice. I’d really like to see the Ritchey Classic and Zipp Traditional added.
This is a fantastic page. Excellent research.
I use the older style bars like Cinelli’s with a slight tilt, as Mitch pointed out. Around 10 degrees seems to be comfortable – helps flattens the upper ramp.
As one of my colleagues pointed out, even a minor tilt like this will give you a touch more reach and more drop. Both measurements move forward and away from the rider.
it’s very cool to have all this info in one place. thanks for putting it up.
back in the late 80’s i only rode with cinelli mod 66s or ttt merckx’s. i kept using them through the 90’s cause i couldn’t stand all the anatomic bends that were coming out. thankfully, the traditional’esque bends are making a comeback, though they are almost all 31.8 oversize.
i like the new compact bends like the one offered by FSA. i have a few pairs on on a few of my modern bikes and find them to be very comfy. but i’d like to find new bars for my old steel merckx (1″ threaded). any 26.0 clamp traditional (shallow or deep drop) bars out there besides the ones offered by deda?
NOS 3TTT Merckx bars are still available on ebay. With the exception of Nitto the number of companies offering new 26.0 bars is dwindling rapidly. If you can live without grooves for cable routing Nitto and Grand Bois have several models of traditional bars to choose from. The Ritchey classic road and the Oval Concepts R701 are still available in 25.8/26.0 sizes.
nittos are fine and all, a bit heavy but classic. i have a B115 on a heavy surly bike and like them, though the drop is a bit too deep for me. the oval’s look pretty nice, i’ll look for the 26.0 ones.
just looked around online, and i guess richard sachs is the only place to get the 701’s with a 26.0 clamp. i might just get me a pair. thanks again for the tip!
Fabulously useful resource, thank you!
You might wish to add 3T ERGONOVA to your presentation. It is now the best-selling 3T bar, pushing even further in the ‘compact’ direction of ERGOSUM:
http://www.thenew3t.com/details.aspx?i=Dropbars&p=ergonova&d=TEAM
[...] There are now several manufacturers making classic bend drop bars. The Deda shallow and Ritchey WCS have a shallow (Italian) drop, The Deda Deep has a deep (Belgian-Pave) drop and the 3T is in between. The modern shallow and deep drop bars actually have less drop then the classic bars like the Cinelli Giro d’Italia and the 3ttt Merckx bend bars. You can check out the geometry of the classic bars in Road Drop Bar Geometry. [...]
Thanks for the page.
I’ve currently got my Nitto B115’s of the bicycle and was wondering if you’d like a photo of them to include.
Fantastic to have all this in one spot.
Cheers
Andrew
Very interesting information, glad to see someone prefers ‘proper’ drop bars! In my opinion, ‘ergo’ bars are the least ergonomic items on the planet!
How about the ‘intermediate’ drop Cinelli 63? Similar overall shape but slightly less back breaking than the 66, especially now I’m older.
I have a Cinelli catalogue from around 1980 with all the dimensions etc. of their full range at the time if it’s of interest.
git,
an 80’s Cinelli catalogue you say? yes, would love to see that. please scan it and share!
Thank you! Great work giving us new to biking a starting point for comparisons and useful information to help us with so many options that are out there.
I just bought a 68-ish to early 70’s Bianchi Celeste – haven’t gotten the bike yet – but looking at the pics of the bars so far it looks like I have the Nitto 135 Grand Randonneur set. I think I have something similar on my 76′ Araya Randonneur as they rise similarly. I just didn’t want to unwrap them to find out.
I love it when I research for hours and finally come across a site like this to find out answers I know are there. It’s like a big “AH HA!”.